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Robbie Marriage's avatar

I'm beginning to sound like a broken record, Smayan. We wholly disagree on Brock Purdy.

The NFL has changed. Pocket presence does not mean what it used to mean. I know what I always say. Sack rate is a QB stat. In fact, it's THE QB stat, meaning it's the stat that the QB, individually, has the most control over. Your teammates can help you a little bit to not get sacked, but not as much as they can help you complete passes, accrue yards, throw touchdowns, etc..

As we're seeing with Jayden Daniels right now, as long as you can be productive and complete passes, who cares if you do it from inside the pocket or outside? Maybe some offensive linemen who don't want to do that much work, but there's no connection between offensive success and not throwing the ball on the move, as long as the QB is good at it. This reveals the real definition of pocket presence: how long can you hold the ball, without taking a sack?

There is more than one way to be successful, but it doesn't take any pocket presence to hit the back foot and get the ball out on time. Joe Burrow's lack of any pocket presence whatsoever is why the Bengals' offence has to operate the way it does.

Holding the ball is how you allow big plays to happen. You allow receivers to get open deeper down the field, etc.. Plays where the ball is held longer (but there is no sack) create scramble drill scenarios, and generally good things happen for the offence. On the condition that he can avoid a sack, I want my QB holding the ball as long as possible. This is what all the greats do.

Hold the ball forever, but don't get sacked.

This is really rough, and comes with obvious issues, but here is a back of the envelope measure of pocket presence: Who holds the ball longest, but maintains a below average sack rate?

Would you look at that?

1. Brock Purdy (3.17 seconds), and then there is a gulf before you get to...

2. Lamar Jackson (3.04)

3. Bo Nix (2.96), which is extremely impressive out of a rookie, and may indicate he's got some good years ahead of him.

4. Josh Allen (2.91)

T-5. Jordan Love (2.81)

T-5. Patrick Mahomes (2.81)

Looking at the names on this list, you can see that this is a skill that tends to separate the men from the boys. Far from thinking his pocket presence is inadequate, I actually think Brock has a serious argument for the best pocket presence in the NFL, because he can somehow manage to hold the ball all night (3.17 average time to throw is actually the longest in the NFL), and not get sacked. What people think Lamar Jackson is in terms of sack avoidance is what Brock Purdy actually is, and THIS is why Brock Purdy topped my QB tier list last year, while I never put Jimmy G higher than tenth.

This sack rate stuff is individual. It's not the SF system. Brock Purdy would still be not just great but number one at this if you put him in another uniform, and therefore would be an elite QB in any uniform. What people need to look into is why Brock is throwing into coverage more than any other QB in the NFL. Probably because he has no receivers that are open due to being stuck with really poor receivers for injury reasons, so he has to consistently force balls into tight windows, and still has a CPOE way above 0 by the way.

In short, I think Brock Purdy is elite. I think he was the MVP of the NFL last year, but didn't win the award because 'wow, Lamar so pretty', and should be getting MVP looks this year considering he's dragging the trash on offence he's been surrounded with to still be a top five pass offence in the NFL right now, but he won't. The NFL world discriminates against QBs who were not selected in the first round, and Brock Purdy (and his fans, like me) is feeling the full brunt of that right now.

Sorry for the rant buddy. You've hit a nerve with this one with the discrimination being so blatant and clear to see, not on your part, but on the part of anybody who thinks any other QB could do what Brock Purdy is doing right now.

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Angus Merry's avatar

Purdy’s a really interesting QB. Part of why he established himself as the starter in Year 1 was because he was willing to stand in the pocket and take big hits, but he also possessed this crazy playmaking ability off-script. It’s kind of fascinating that his pocket presence isn’t where it should be right now, but this year just feels like one of those seasons where things are just a bit… off.

Either way, I don’t think anyone’s pointing the finger at him right now, and for good reason. He’s put them in great positions to win each week, and the defence just hasn’t done what they’ve needed to do to get them there.

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